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Scipio Artelius
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Posted - 2014.05.30 23:15:00 -
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Just a couple of comments:
1. It's the test server. There's equally no point to fighting as there is to fighting. Who cares; and
2. You've decided that all of EvE has an aversion to fighting based on one encounter on SiSi?
The only real comment I can offer is - my experience on TQ is totally different.
If you want to fight on SiSi, come to I-UU15. If we are online at the same time, any of us in Alliance will be more than happy to 1v1 (and honour it as a 1v1).
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Posted - 2014.05.30 23:20:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:You are supposed to infer information based upon a single example and presume that the author is referencing that experience in order to explain a much larger phenomena of which he has been experiencing.
It's your silly story and whine.
I'm not really willing to infer anything more than you wrote, otherwise you'll just go off and whine that people don't know how to take you at your word.
Next up: a whine about how people think everything is a whine.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 23:42:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I'm still living in the past where Catnineotails was all the rage and snotshot was the alliance section troll extraordinaire. So I am not really familiar with a serene.
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Her response wasn't a troll at all. Best and most accurate response in the thread so far.
Get out of highsec if you are having trouble getting people to 1v1 you.
If you can't find fights, that's not the fault of other people. It's yours. There's plenty of fights available and they are very easy to find.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 23:58:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:What makes you presume that I am a high sec only player? 
You have the typical whine that you can't find fights.
That's only a highsec problem. No reading comprehension issue. Not at least on my end.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 01:48:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Edit:
But your sig stating "to the repairmobile" suggests that you might be part of the problem.
Oh god, my sides.
I think you need to go back and adjust your posts about reading comprehension.
That was a huge reading comprehension fail right there.
Eternum Praetorian wrote:Have fun flying that "repairmobile" and making the game better place for everyone. Straight
This one too.
It's rare that the forum makes me laugh, but this is great.
Forum pvp fail. Your lossmail would make a good ALOD.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 01:56:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:He's not entirely wrong. I mean, seriously, when was the last time anyone outside nullsec undocked when they thought they might not win?
Happens in FW systems all the time.
Roaming pirate fleets will engage most targets, Galmil and Calmil pilots will often fight, die, go reship and jump back into a fight.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 02:19:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Oh, yeah, there is faction war, isn't there? Sorry, I tend to file that away with COSMOS and just don't think of it very often.
Yeah sure. Outside nullsec (from your original response), lowsec has plenty of fighting going on.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 02:22:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:There it is nothing unreasonable in presuming that a RIPARDMOBILE is referring to a ******** repair mobile, a rr ambulance or repairmobile.
They are not connected at all, in any way.
You started the whole attacks about reading comprehension, so don't go all pouty now when your own comprehension fails. Wrong comprehension is wrong comprehension, even if you think it might have been right.
If you want people to address the topic only and not the other remarks made, then stick to addressing the topic yourself.
But if you can't handle it, don't dish it out.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 02:35:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Now if you would be so kind as to actually address the topic, I would be interested in what you have to say.
I already did address the topic, right back in my original reply and in a couple of the subsequent ones.
But for simplicity:
My experience is totally opposite to the complaint you have made. There is no "no fight" culture in EvE and it is easy to find fights if you go looking for them.
Get out of highsec, which is where finding fights can sometimes be difficult unless you gank. Lowsec has constant fighting going on in the factional warfare systems. Many pirate Corps and both Galmil and Calmil pilots will engage, even if the odds are only 50:50. When they are close to their home systems, they'll often engage, lose, go reship and get back into the fight. You can fight in anything from frigates to cruisers easily.
Even your old hunting area of HED-GP, in terms of nullsec, has masses of fighting going on because Hero Coalition are there. They are constantly fighting and Brave Newbies will take on anyone, no matter whether they will win or lose.
Where I live in Syndicate is fairly constant for fighting in some of the systems. EZA (Eve-Uni), 6-c, 6E-, MHC and others. Ineluctable are there and will engage anyone (and hotdrop them in the process, which is always fun).
Fleets run logistics, but many don't, though they'll often bring e-war if they don't have logistics.
However solo fights can be found relatively easily and taking fights slightly outnumbered opens up even more fights, especially in low and null.
I have seen nothing to indicate a "no fight" culture in this game.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 02:41:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:I dunno about that. The only place I ever see it is around Hek. Go out toward GW in Metro and there's a whole lot of empty low sec.
In your last reply you wrote that you don't even think about lowsec.
So is it safe to assume that you don't know because you don't think about it often and don't fly in lowsec much?
It's hard to tell because this appears to be a forum alt and there isn't much in the way of pvp on your killboard at all, with none since 2010 (though z-killboard seems to be having a bit of a fit at the moment).
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Posted - 2014.05.31 02:52:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Anyway, you are right. I roamed HED allot and here is what we got. We rammed our ships into the camp on the HED gate whenever it was there. It went two ways, one we got completely creamed by a blob (especially on the weekends) and two we cleared the gate only to be creamed by the response blob.
To avoid the response blob we would roam deeper into Catch as far as we could go in every direction, encountering nothing until we reached a local or two filled with ratters who remained docked. After which, we then contended with the response blob.
Sure, there were fights to be had there but they are following the same pattern. We just flew around until that gigantic blob from hell found us, and the rest of the time we practiced avoiding them in order to get back to high sec.
So if there are now "brave noobs" who will fight anyone whether they win or lose down there, they were not there when I was playing. So excuse me if I do not just take your word for it. But I will go down there and see for myself this weekend.
No Brave Newbies weren't even a Corp when you were playing before.
However, your old experience isn't perhaps the best data to base a judgement on in relation to the current culture of the game. Not all systems or regions are busy. Some a constantly busy.
Flying in the less busy ones doesn't mean there is a culture of "no fights" in EvE. It just means you need to fly in other areas.
Go to GalCal FW systems, especially from Tama to Vlillirier. You can jump into Tama from highsec (the Nourvakaiken gate is often camped, so taking a few extra jumps is often better) and then fight in every system on the route.
Go to Old Man Star, Heydieles and Abune. Lots of fighting to be had.
Go to Ostingele and fly to Melmaniel. Lots of fighting to be had there.
From Melmaniel head to Hevrice and you'll find fighting and then jump across the non-FW systems into Amarr/Min space. You'll find SCUM when you hit the FW systems again and can fight all day long.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 03:21:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Scipio... you don't get the point.
I get his point just fine. I just disagree with it.
In highsec sure. Outside highsec, my experience in game is totally different to what the OP is complaining about.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 04:09:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:
In your last reply you wrote that you don't even think about lowsec.
No, I said I don't think about Faction War. [quote=Scipio Artelius]Again, trolling requires reading comprehension. I fly in low sec quite a bit. I see FW, not so much. And, no, this is my main. I stopped active PvP a while back because it got boring camping endless stations and gates, dealing with alliance mates that were absolutely untrustworthy and waiting for the next blob to roll around. So yeah, I just wander around eve, retired. But I do have eyes, and make a complete transit of eve about once every three months, much to the irritation of a wide range of bubble ranchers. I grant not undocking in the face of overwhelming firepower is sensible. But I've seen a lot of people drip what they are doing and run at even the slightest hint of a possible challenge and stay gone until dead certain they had overwhelming superiority themselves or the threat left.
Yep fair enough on FW v lowsec in general.
Just bad teminology, not trolling. If you think I I'm just a troll , go check my post history. It's not what I'm here for.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 09:08:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:There is your reading comp problem again  I absolutely did not say there are "no fights" in eve. I am clearly referring to the "No fight" culture where people do not want to pew pew unless the cards are stacked considerably in their favor.
You should just drop that sillyness. My reading comprehension is fine.
A culture of 'no fights' === 'no fights' culture. (Read the full sentence i wrote. I think you'll find it clearly refers to the culture).
Same thing, just written the opposite way. This is why in my first response i specifically didn't interpret anything outside what you wrote. As soon as it doesnt suit your purpose, you just attack the poster, rather than just recognising the equivalence of the discussion.
On your other Old Man Star comment, its not so commonly camped anymore. Back just before TEST joined FW, Galmil pushed Calmil out of OMS and Ladistier. That forced Soul Takers out for a short period until Old Man Gang forced their way back in. However since, the Villore gate in OMS isnt as difficult to jump through as it used to be. The system itself is still great for fighting though, along with Heydieles and Abune/Fliet.
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:25:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Eternum making people think. I look forward to these threads, but not having looked it over yet, I'm sure the usual troll brigade is all over it as if they controlled reality or something.
It's perhaps worth reading through the thread before passing judgement.
Troll is a much overused term on these forums, however I dropped out of this thread many pages ago after realising that there is a troll here. It's just unfortunate that it's the OP and the whole thread was started only to serve his own enjoyment needs.
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Posted - 2014.06.02 01:02:00 -
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casanover wrote:All i keep seeing is you trolling!
In what way am I trolling? Is it not valid to have an opinion, even if that opinion differs from the OP? My experience is different to his and he asked from my views. Why is it wrong to express them?
Specifically in relation to the post you quoted, what's trolling about it? It just states my experience of the ease with which fights can be found in this game.
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Posted - 2014.06.02 02:49:00 -
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casanover wrote:My point is that you seem to have an axe to grind with the op. i would like to see some serious debate with regards to the ops original post without yet anoughter thread being locked,
I dont know the OP from Adam. He started a discussion and I originally assumed he was looking for discussion, not just +1s on his opening post.
The only issues I've addressed other than the topic of the thread have been in response to being attacked first.
However, it seems that the best thing to do is to just bow out of this thread again as the discussion of the topic has changed to who is the biggest troll, which is hardly original or helpful.
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Posted - 2014.06.02 03:06:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:But you did make claims about Catch that another person's recent and objective experiences contradicted.
I assume your referring to Wolf's post. Maybe i missed it, but in what way was my claim that there is a lot of fighting going on in HED-GP contradicted?
You may see that as off-topic or something, i dont know. I'm not on this forum to troll. I actually like this community and try to be as constructive as possible whenever I can. Clearly that seems to have been poorly executed in this thread, but I'm always open to understanding why so I can avoid it in future. So any help you can provide so I can see how my statement was contradicted would be greatly appreciated. Then I'll just bow out of your discussion all together.
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Posted - 2014.06.05 04:10:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Back on Topic:
I still have achieved only 1 fight so far, 4 days later... and that is very relevant to the topic of this OP. Where are the leet PVP'ers... !
They're in game fighting.
As one example that I hope is not deleted even though it's technically against the forum rules.
In the last 4 days, while you've been talking yourself up and everyone else down in the forum, here's a guy who's had more than 60 fights, with >70% of them 1v1:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Lijja+Cuu&page=1#kills
Chopper was just spot on in his earlier post when he suggested that perhaps people just don't want to give you their time. Nothing to do with risk aversion.
On top of that. Only a very small percentage of players visit the forum regularly. You aren't really communicating with very many people through this medium.
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